От: Съветски/руски vs. западни танкове
Здравей Дагобар! Освен че си качил няколко снимки на поразени танкове (от които няколко на един и същи танк от различни страни), не си представил никаква информация за екипажите, което е в основата на въпроса.
Взривяването на боекомплекта е основна причина за погиването на екипажа. Може ли да представиш информация за унищожени Ейбрамс заедно с екипажа (с какъв боеприпас им е въздействано, целият екипаж ли е загинал и т.н., защото иначе някак изказването увисва във въздуха.... Още по-добре ще бъде да видим и малко руски данни за техните загуби и да сравним....
Имаш ли доказателства за обратното. Май нямаш...
Не мога да коментирам, може и така да е.... Ако се не лъжа наш БТР бе ударен в Камбоджа с РПГ и закина само един човек вътре...
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Понеже ми е малко скептично, че някой ще се порови за инфо, да започна с първата войма в залива (KIA - значи загинал)....
Малко описание на щети:
Малко умозаключения от 2003:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...earned2003.ppt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_M1_Abrams
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Ето малко за Т (подсмрък..):
http://btvt.narod.ru/2/tanki_1995.htm
http://topwar.ru/26962-tanki-v-chechenskoy-voyne.html
Гейм, сет и мач!
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Понеже ми е малко скептично, че някой ще се порови за инфо, да започна с първата войма в залива (KIA - значи загинал)....
1. | Bumper B-31[12][13][14] TF 1-5 CAV | Mine | February 19 Ruqi Pocket | Tracks/Engine | None |
2. | Unknown number[15] 1st Brigade, 2nd Armored Division | Mine | February 24 Southern Kuwait | Tracks, One M1 tank struck a mine in the breach and lost some road wheels. No one in the tank was injured, and the tank was back in action within a day. | None |
3. | Bumper K-42[16] 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment | Struck by DPICM artillery | February 26 73 Easting | Loader machine-gun and left fuel cell destroyed | 1 WIA |
4. | Bumper B-66[17] TF 1-41, 2nd Armored Division(FWD) | Three DU kinetic energy rounds, after being hit by an Iraqi RPG | February 26 Norfolk line | Penetration in the hull, below the turret Ammunition blown-up | 1 KIA, 3 WIAs |
5. | Bumper B-22[17] TF 1-41, 2nd Armored Division(FWD) | One DU kinetic energy round | February 26 Norfolk line | Front slope hit with no internal damage | 1 WIA |
6. | Bumper A-14[17] TF 1-41, 2nd Armored Division(FWD) | One DU kinetic energy round | February 26 Norfolk line | One hit in the left side of the hull. Extensive damage by fire | 3 WIAs |
7. | Bumper A-31[17] TF 1-41, 2nd Armored Division(FWD) | Splinters of one DU kinetic energy penetrator | February 26 Norfolk line | Hit in the rear left hull | None |
8. | Bumper A-33[17] TF 1-41, 2nd Armored Division(FWD) | Two DU rounds, after being hit by TOW missile | February 26 Norfolk line | Double penetration of the hull | 3 WIAs |
9. | Bumper D-24[17] TF 1-37, 1st Armored Division | Small caliber shaped charge | February 26 Assault on Tawakalna Division | Impact on NBC exhausts, compartment penetrated | 2 WIAs |
10. | Bumper B-23[17][18] TF 1-37, 1st Armored Division | Large caliber shaped charge, then hit by an unknown round, likely a KE (non-DU) | February 26 Assault on Tawakalna Division | Two hits, one on the rear grills, another penetrated both sides of the hull. Catastrophic damage by fire | 1 WIA |
11. | Bumper C-12[17] TF 1-37, 1st Armored Division | One DU kinetic energy penetrator, then hit by anti-tank missile | February 26 Assault on Tawakalna Division | KE round achieved a double penetration of the hull. The anti-tank missile set the storage area of the turret on fire | None |
12. | Bumper C-66[17] TF 1-37, 1st Armored Division | Two small shaped charges | February 26 Assault on Tawakalna Division | Small penetration of the left rear side of the hull. Impact on the turret defeated by armor | 3 WIAs |
13. | Bumper C-12[19] TF 4-8th CAV, 3rd Armored Division | 73 mm shell from a BMP-1 |
February 26 Assault on Tawakalna Division | Minor damage to sponson box and .50 machine-gun | 1 WIA |
14. | Bumper B-24[20] TF 4-8th CAV, 3rd Armored Division | Enemy indirect fire | February 26 Assault on Tawakalna Division | Damaged to sponson box and duffle bags | None |
15. | Bumper C-24[21] TF 4-8th CAV, 3rd Armored Division | Friendly DPICM | February 26 Assault on Tawakalna Division | Storage area shredded by shrapnel Main gun punctured | None |
16. | Unknown number 197th Brigade, 24 Infantry Division | Crippled by enemy fire, then destroyed by DU rounds | February 27 Assault on Tallil airfield | Ammunition blown-up | None |
17. | Unknown number 197th Brigade, 24 Infantry Division | Stuck in mud, then destroyed by DU rounds | February 27 Assault on Tallil airfield | Ammunition blown-up | None |
18. | Unknown number 197th Brigade, 24 Infantry Division | Stuck in mud, then destroyed by DU rounds | February 27 Assault on Tallil airfield | Ammunition blown-up | None |
19. | Bumper HQ66[22][23] Commander tank, TF 4-64 Armor, 24 Infantry Division | Two conventional KE or HEAT rounds from a 100 mm gun | February 27 South-west of Basra | 120 mm gunner's primary sight (GPS) damaged and fuel-cell punctured. Sight replaced next morning. Tank continued in combat. | None |
20. | Unknown number Turret number:5840U Hull number10060[24] |
Three conventional KE rounds from an Iraqi T-72[25] | Unknown date/location | Two partial penetrations on the rear turret right side (possible fire in the storage area). Cosmetic damage on the turret front DU left armor plate. | None |
21. | Bumper A-22[26] 2nd Platoon, A Company, TF 4-64, 24 Infantry Division | Secondary explosions from an Iraqi T-72[27] | March 2 Rumeilah Oilfields | Storage area devastated by fire. Ammunition blown-up. | 1 WIA |
Малко описание на щети:
However, on October 29, 2003, two soldiers were killed and a third wounded when their tank was disabled by an anti-tank mine, which was combined with other explosives (500 kg (1,100 lb), including several 155 mm rounds) to increase its effect. The massive explosion beneath the tank knocked off the turret. This marked the first time deaths resulted from a hostile-fire assault on the M1 tank from enemy forces
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...earned2003.ppt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_M1_Abrams
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Ето малко за Т (подсмрък..):
http://btvt.narod.ru/2/tanki_1995.htm
http://topwar.ru/26962-tanki-v-chechenskoy-voyne.html
65 танков это безвозратные потери (2 танка при выдвижении к Грозному, 49 в боях за Грозный, 14 в операциях после Грозного. В среднем 40-45 % от всех подбитых являлись безвозратными.
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