Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

[targa]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Цялата информация с видео не работи. Пръкна ми се някаква гад на екрана и не искаше да се маха. Да разбирам ли, че ще отпаднат и пътните книги?

[ТОДОР ХРИСТОВ]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Цялата информация с видео не работи. Пръкна ми се някаква гад на екрана и не искаше да се маха. Да разбирам ли, че ще отпаднат и пътните книги?

Видео е образно казано, pps e формата и се отваря, просто трябва да изчакаш да се изтегли и само си тръгва...
Няма връзка с пътната книга, става дума за GPS...

[Валентин Исаев]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Ето правилника на Croatia Trophy 2014 започващо на 30 април.Нашия е в пъти по сложен и обременяващ.Прикачам го и на руски.
1. GENERAL

Croatia Trophy is an off-road amateur-driving event demanding top driving skills by every participant, and performance will therefore be assessed solely on time. There will be no score for manoeuvring skills, such as clocking up a clear round in a slalom track.
Participants will be divided in three classes: Trophy Class and Adventure Class for cars and ATV Class. Cars will not be divided into different subclasses: the various stage of the difficult terrain in this Trophy will favour different types of cars – from light agile models to heavy, powerful ones – at different times. The demands placed on participants during the Trophy overall will guarantee that all participants have absolutely identical chances of winning.
To achieve one of the top places in the overall score, the driver and co-driver, as well as ATV drivers, must be perfectly co-ordinated, master both, the winch and the vehicle to perfection, and be expert in assessing the terrain. In the end it will be the crew, or ATV driver, that consistently manages to drive among the fastest from A to B, to win the contest.
Every announcement or notification published on www.croatia-trophy.org
or on facebook.com/croatiatrophy is considered as a part of The Rules.
Facebook.com/croatiatrophy is the only official Facebook page of Croatia Trophy. Any other information published on any other Facebook profile or group is NOT official Croatia Trophy information.
Finally we would like to appeal to all participants to display a true spirit of fair play, however keen you are to win. Everybody who completes the Trophy will win a personal victory. The prizes for the first places should not and must not tempt participants into endangering themselves and others. The special fair play award named after Carl Reuter will be given to the crew or driver that is deemed to deserve it. Press, The Organizer and Fair Play Prize sponsor will make the decision. We encourage everybody to report fair behaviour.
Please make every effort to avoid damaging the unique Croatian countryside in any way. Remember that we are all guests in the Croatian forests and nature, and would like to have the opportunity to return.
2. SPECIAL CONDITIONS

2.1. Vehicles
2.1.1. Type and the equipment of the vehicle
The Croatia Trophy is an event for off-road vehicles (cars and ATV’s). It is open to any all wheel drive vehicle.
Every 4×4 vehicle that is road legal in its country of origin (has a registration plate and a valid international insurance certificate) is allowed to enter the race.
Prototypes are not eligible.
Each vehicle must be equipped with 2 safety belts, 2 helmets, 2 sets of protective gloves, spare wheel, appropriate car jack, at least 2 linen stripes for pull-outs (short and long one), winches (rear winch is optional for “Adventure Class”), trip master, fire extinguisher, mud anchor (optional but recommendable) and a first aid box.
Roll bar (cage) is mandatory for all vehicles. ATV drivers will wear special protective clothing instead.
Maximum permissible weight for vehicles is 3.5 tones.
2.1.2. Classes
Participants are divided in 3 classes. Cars are divided in” Trophy” and “Adventure” class. ATV’s are separate class. ATV’s will drive by the “Adventure Class” Road Book.
The difference between “Trophy” and “Adventure” class is in the road book. “Adventure Class” road book is not as demanding as “Trophy Class” road book. The difference in equipment is only in winches. Vehicle in ” Trophy Class” must have front and rear winch while vehicles in “Adventure Class” must have front winch only. Rear winch is optional. “Adventure Class” is not a Rally. It uses tracks of ”Croatia Trophy” but without most difficult parts and long winching areas.
It is not “light class” and definitely not a “tourist class”. It is ultimate adventure and, first of all, genuine off road.
Change from one class into another during the event is allowed.
Change from “Trophy” to “Adventure” Class: participant keeps his time score and starts next stage in new class from last starting place.
Change from “Adventure ” to “Trophy” Class: participant gets the overall time of the last ranking participant in new class and starts next stage in new class from last starting place.
2.1.3. The Tyres
Tyres must be from serial production with off-road profile. They can be any type or size and must be road legal.
Tractor tyres and tyres with rubber spikes or studs are not permitted. It is, however, permitted to cut and alter the treads of existing tyres.
Unimog tyre profiles are allowed for Unimogs or for vehicles constructed on Unimog basis.
Snow chains are not allowed.
2.1.4. GPS
Possession and use of GPS is not allowed. Vehicle that has GPS will not be allowed to start. Controls will be taken during the stages.
2.1.5. Radio communicator
Possession and use of Radio communicator is not allowed. Vehicle that has Radio communicator will not be allowed to start. Controls will be taken during the stages.
Radio communication between driver and co-driver is allowed.
2.1.6. Mobile telephone-GSM
The use of mobile telephone (GSM) is not allowed, except for the emergency case.
2.2. Crew & Safety
The crew is consisted of two (2) members: driver and co driver. They can change their role without limitation. Both crewmembers must have valid driving licence.
ATV drivers register and participate as a single driver. They must be a member of ATV club and prove ATV driving experience to The Organizer.
When in stage, participants must wear the helmet all the time and fasten their seatbelts. Crossing deep water must make exception.
Participants must wear protective gloves when operating the cable.
ATV drivers must wear protective clothes, helmet with eye protection and gloves, when in stage.
2.3. The Track
The entire track must be driven as specified in the road book. The individual sections of the track and the special tracks must be accomplished in the fastest possible time. The distances (kilometres and meters) quoted in the road book shall apply. The distances shown on the dial can vary appreciably depending on the size of the tyre, the stile of driving, detours or uneven terrain. The Organizer will mark the distance of 1km according to the vehicle that the road book has been made with, in the base camp, so the participants can calibrate their trip masters.
The final route will be given in the road book and in particular at the drivers briefing.
Connecting runs are not timed but they might be time limited.
2.4. Scoring
The scoring of the individual stages can be seen from the description of the stages given in the road book. Scoring is based on the time a crew takes to cover the prescribed route between start and a finish. Vehicles must cross starting line reach checkpoints and cross finishing line under their own steam. Each stage will feature one or more checkpoints and some of them might not be given in the road book. Participants must have their scorecards stamped by the marshal stationed at the checkpoint.
The time will be measured in hours, minutes and exceptionally in seconds.
The times will be entered on a scorecard and evaluated every evening. Every crew is responsible for ensuring that their Scorecard is handed to the scoring team when they reach the finish line, or to The Organizer’s office as soon as they reach the camp in case that they have withdrawal from the stage for any reason. Only Scorecards that are handed in within an hour of the stage being closed can be taken into account. The time at which the stage is closed will be specified in the road book or announced at the driver’s briefing.
2.5. Evaluation
Order of the stage will be based on time needed to finish the stage and penalty time given. The fastest is the best.
The overall ranking is based on the overall time from previous stages
2.6. Starting order
The starting order for the first stage will be determined by the ranking achieved in the preliminary competition (prologue). The Organizer will inform participants in good time about the procedure for this preliminary competition. Preliminary competition is not evaluated for overall ranking.
On subsequent days vehicles will start in the order of the ranking they have achieved in the previous stage (except for the circuit race). The best from the previous stage starts first. ATV’s shall start each stage first. Time difference between last started ATV and first started car is 30 min.
2.7. Penalties
2.7.1.
Outside help – disqualification from the stage
2.7.2.
Tampering with the Scorecard – disqualification from the stage
2.7.3.
Avoiding tasks and route given in the road book – disqualification from the stage
2.7.4.
Missing checkpoint or entering checkpoint from the wrong side – disqualification from the stage
2.7.5.
Withdrawal (giving up) from the stage

• Between Start and Middle Checkpoint – last stage time of the day + 45 minutes penalty time
• Between Middle Check Point and Last Checkpoint – last stage time of the day + 30 minutes penalty time.
• Between Last Checkpoint and Finish – last stage time of the day + 15 minutes penalty time.

The Organizer will investigate every start and withdrawal from the stage before first checkpoint of the day, in order to prevent unfair behaviour.
2.7.6.
Not starting the stage – last stage time of the day + 1 hour penalty time.
2.7.7.
Disqualification from the stage – last stage time of the day + 2 hours penalty time
2.7.8.
Possessing GPS, radio communicator or usage of mobile telephone on prohibited way – 300 Euro fine plus disqualification from the stage. In repeated case – disqualification from the Trophy.
2.7.9.
Not wearing helmet, protective gloves when operating the cable or not fastening the seat belt – 100 Euro fine. In repeated case – 300 Euro fine plus disqualification from the stage. Not paying any of those fines leads to the disqualification from the Trophy.
2.7.10.
Using winch cable around the tree without protective stripe, or using electric (telephone) poles or fences or any other inappropriate object for winching – 300 Euro fine. In repeated case – 500 Euro fine plus disqualification from the stage. Not paying any of those fines leads to the disqualification from the Trophy.
2.7.11.
Driving off the road book through the fields, causing damage to the fields, trees and plants- 300 Euro fine plus disqualification from the stage. In repeated case – 500 Euro fine plus disqualification from the stage. Not paying any of those fines leads to the disqualification from the Trophy.
Penalties for not obeying the specific regulations of the day will be announced on the driver’s briefing.
2.7.12.
Unfair behaviour - disqualification from the stage. In repeated case – disqualification from the Trophy.
The Organizer reserves right to define and determine improper behaviour, which is not in a spirit of The Trophy, as an unfair.
2.8. Bonuses
In order to promote, support and reward excellence and true fair competition spirit, The Organizer will give bonus time to the three best competitors of the day. Bonus time will be deducted from their time of the day.

• First place (The Winner) bonus – 12 minutes.
• Second place – 6 minutes
• Third place – 3 minutes

Bonuses will not apply for the Night Stage, Trophy Day and Circuit Race.
2.9. Outside help
Outside help is not permitted, which means that neither the members of the organizing team, nor the marshals, nor the crew’s own service/support team, nor spectators are allowed to render assistance. The only help that is permitted is that rendered by competitors inside their own class, still participating in the contest (except in the case of emergency). Help between classes will be considered as outside help. Exceptions can be made due to track condition and The Organizer will inform about it on time. The stage will be deemed not completed if a crew has been proven to receive outside help.
2.10. Driving rules/Offences
Participants must obey the instructions issued by The Organizer and the marshals or section leaders throughout the duration of the event. Further regulations might be announced at the driver’s briefing or in the road book.
Non-observance of these instructions can lead to the penalties being imposed in chapter 2.7.3. and 2.7.12. of The Rules, or even to participants being disqualified from the stage or from the event. If participant decides to give up, they must inform the Organiser as soon as possible.
2.11. Complaints
Claims and complaints can only be lodged with the leaders of the Organizing Team. The Organizer will make every effort to post up score list daily on the scoring board before briefing takes place, showing the day’s score, the overall score and any changes.
2.12. Protests/Appeals
Protests of any kind must be lodged with The Organizer/Trophy manager within maximum of one hour after the publication of the results.
Any protest must be lodged in written form and must be accompanied by the payment of the protest fee of 200 Euro. This fee will be forfeited if the protest proves to be unfounded.
Three responsible leaders of the event organizing team will reach decision on protest, after listening to the accounts given by those involved. The decision will be announced at least before the start of the next stage or, in case of the protest on last stage results, before announcement of total results.
2.13. Advertising
When submitting their entry forms, participants undertake to affix the advertising material supplied by the sponsors of this event to the parts of the vehicles specified by The Organizer. Competitive advertising is not allowed. Vehicles will be checked at the start of the Trophy to ensure that they meet its requirement. Participation without proper stickers or with competitive sticker will not be allowed. The Organizer reserves windscreen and both front doors for own advertising. NO EXCEPTIONS.
2.14. Identification
The Organizer will provide two stickers for each vehicle showing the start number. The stickers must be affixed to each of the front doors and must be clean before the start of every stage. Where vehicles have soft doors these stickers must be affixed to some other firm surface. The stickers will be provided for the service vehicles as well as for the press vehicles. Without proper sticker the start of the stage or the entrance in the camp will not be allowed.
2.15. Help and Assistance
In view of the unusual nature of this event every participant must render aid, should an accident or other hazardous situation occur.
2.16. Disqualification
The Organizer reserves right to exclude vehicles and their crew from the event if this is justified by the circumstances.
2.17. Servicing
Participants are not allowed to service their own vehicles during the stages. Servicing is only allowed in The Camp. The members of service/support teams are not allowed to approach to the participants or their vehicles on the track or to communicate with the participants on the track. Such behaviour will be considered and penalized as an outside help.
2.18. Medical service
Medical service will be provided in a camp and along the stages. Medical service will be charged. Medical insurance (travel insurance for foreign countries) is mandatory for everybody.
3. DEFINITIONS

3.1. Start
The starting point might be the camp or a point further away from the camp. This will be specified in the road book. Scoring begins when front wheels of the vehicle cross the starting line on their own steam.
3.2. Road book
Participants are provided with a Road book to assist them and help them
find their way. The Road book shall also be deemed to be an extension of The Rules. The Road book for the next stage will be delivered to the participants before the Start, after they return Road book from previous stage. Loss or not returning the Road book to The Organizer will mean excluding from the stage.
3.3. Stage
A stage is the total distance driven from Start to Finish in one day. It can be consisted of more individual sections whose number can vary from stage to stage. There will be time limit to complete the stage and it will be specified in a road book or given on the Driver’s briefing.
3.4. Individual section
Individual section is the part of the stage between specified checkpoints where the time will be measured.
3.5. Circuit Race
Circuit Race will be a special stage included in the overall scoring. For safety reasons, participants will start in groups. Groups will be formed based on overall standing. Slowest group starts first. Fastest group starts as last group. ATV’s make special group and they start before cars.
Exact rules of the Circuit Race will be given to the participants on the driver’s briefing, as a special amendment of The Rules.
3.6. Trophy Day
The Trophy Day will be a special stage included in the overall scoring. The crews in this stage will have to work together in teams, for the benefit of every team member. Participants will also have an individual section. Ranking of the day will be determined by summing times achieved in the group plus individual time. Exact rules of the Trophy Day will be given to the participants on the driver’s briefing, as a special amendment of The Rules. ATV drivers will also form their teams for Trophy Day.
3.7. Checkpoint
Place where marshals check the regularity of the participating crews along the stage. If the time is going to be measured, such checkpoint is going to be marked in the road book and the time will be put in the scorecard.
Other checkpoints will not be marked in the road book and their number will not be announced. On such checkpoints the marshals must stamp scorecard.
Middle Checkpoint is checkpoint that The Organizer uses for scoring (penalty time calculation). It will be announced for every stage separately.
3.8. Marshals
The Marshals are only authorized to execute the tasks allotted to them by The Organizer. They are not allowed to give participants any information or tips. They are only permitted to give information about The Rules or the accessibility of the leaders of the Organizing Team. Not obeying information or orders given by Marshals leads to the penalties described in the chapter 2.7. of The Rules.
3.9. Technical assistance
Technical assistance and repairs can only be preformed in the camp. The Organizer undertakes no liability for any work preformed.
3.10. Fuel
There will be no fuel available in the camp. This means that participants or service/support teams can fuel up on petrol stations nearby the base camp. The Organizer will provide information about accessible petrol stations and their working hours.
3.11. Technical Support Team – TST
TST (roundup Team) will bring up the rear along the entire track right up to the finish in order to rescue any stranded vehicles or to render assistance.
Assistance taken is treated as withdrawing from the Stage.
Only “general repairs” can be executed. Participants can take along their own special vehicle parts. The Organizer assumes no liability for repairs to vehicles executed by the TST.
3.12. Timing
Exclusively the marshals appointed by The Organizer will clock times. No other timing can be recognized.
Only the times shown by The Organizer’s timepieces will be valid and recognized.
If several crews or ATV’s arrive at the time checkpoint simultaneously, the time will be recorded and will score in order of arrival (as decided by the marshals).
3.13. Scorecard
Scorecard is official identification document of the event that every crew or ATV team gets by the start of every stage. It is official evidence of starting time; check point’s controls, special exams times, finishing time. Remarks like not wearing a helmet or a seatbelt or receiving an outside help are also to be put in the Scorecard. Only Marshals are authorised to put data in the Scorecard. Any tampering with the Scorecard will lead to disqualification from stage. Scorecard must be given to the Marshals on finish line. In case of withdrawing from the stage, Scorecard must be given to the Marshals on the stage or into the office of The Organizer in camp as soon as possible, not later than one hour after the closing of the stage.
3.14. Finish
The finish is the last point at which a score is recorded on the Scorecard. Scoring ends when rear wheels cross finish line on their own steam.
We wish all participants every success in the Croatia Trophy.
Croatia Trophy Organizing Team, Zagreb, Croatia

[ДСВ]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Ето правилника на Croatia Trophy 2014 започващо на 30 април.Нашия е в пъти по сложен и обременяващ.Прикачам го и на руски.

Ха ха тези ще излязат пичове. Не си играят с наказанията направо дерат в евраци.

[Деян Давидов]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Да попитам и аз. Гледам, че на България Трофи 2014 ще има и клас "Адвенчър", този клас ще бъде ли към веригата състезания Bulgaria Trophy Challenge или всеки си решава дали ще прави такъв клас който е извън класирането на веригата?

[rocky]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Да попитам и аз. Гледам, че на България Трофи 2014 ще има и клас "Адвенчър", този клас ще бъде ли към веригата състезания Bulgaria Trophy Challenge или всеки си решава дали ще прави такъв клас който е извън класирането на веригата?

За веригата е само Трофи класа. Като цяло лошо няма всеки един организатор да си пуска различни класове.

[rocky]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Предвид представяне на актуална информация за класиране във Веригата, Моля екипажът Даниела Янчева / Благой Петров - banjo в срок до края на седмицата да заяви тук, дали ще участва във веригата, или не.

[banjo]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Предвид представяне на актуална информация за класиране във Веригата, Моля екипажът Даниела Янчева / Благой Петров - banjo в срок до края на седмицата да заяви тук, дали ще участва във веригата, или не.

При тези правила НЕ

[banjo]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

След последното участие в състезание искам да подложа на разискване някой неща в правилника които са абсурдни или не са написани.
1.

Бутане, дърпане, клатене на автомобила с ръце или въже (колан) с дължина по малка от 3 метра – 60 минути.

Това видео сте го гледали хайде да го коментираме.

2.

Чл.16. (1) Преди старта състезателите са длъжни да поставят стартовите номера на определените от организаторите места, както и рекламните стикери на спонсорите.

Тази част със стикерите на спонсорите е искам да бъде подложена на гласуване да отпадне от правилника. Официалните знаци на състезанието са състезателните номера и баджовете. На тях организатора може да си слага символите на спонсорите а не да лепим като рекламни пана автомобилите. При положение че автомобила с който се състезавам в момента има два квадратни метра рекламна площ която мога евентуално да продам с цел финансиране бъдещите ми участия, с тази точка от правилника съм задължен да рекламирам някой си безплатно.
Не, няма да си взема по-голям автомобил- с това ще парирам някой всезнайко който се опита да ми каже нещо.
Спонсорите на състезанията си имат отредени места: плакати,билбордове,официалните символи на състезанието на колите,стартова арка. Това което е написано в момента в правилника е нелоялна реклама която съм задължен да лепя.
В "Рали спринт Варна" ако залепиш стикерите на спонсорите ти отпада стартовата такса.

3. Никъде в правилника не се споменава какво е наказанието за "умишлено блокиране на трасето",това е един огромен пропуск. Имахме такъв казус- Автомобил с повредено предно предаване приближава екстрем който може да бъде преминат на ход. Участието на този автомобил според мен автоматично трябва да бъде прекратено

Чл.2. Веригата офроуд състезания „Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014” е за автомобили с висока проходимост до 3,5 тона и включва отдени състезания с трасета с аналогична степен на трудност на територията на Република България.

В случай че "високата проходимост "вече не е налична автомобила би трябвало да бъде отстранен или да пропусне другите автомобили. Беше помолен най-учтиво преди навлизането в зоната но се направи че не ме чува и каза че "Щял да мине екстремния участък на лебедка". То нестига това ами и започва да вади в средата на трасето друг повреден автомобил който за момента не пречи. Умишленото блокиране на трасето и възпрепятстването на останалите автомобили е наказуемо но в случая не и според "този Правилник" . Да не говорим че се нарушава и това:

(2) Авариралите автомобили, които не могат да се движат на собствен ход се евакуират след приключване на състезателния ден.

Може да си помагаме в трасето ама един повреден да извлича друг повреден и да блокира трасето идва малко в повече. Състезателната етика липсваше в случая защото и двата аварирали автомобила отпаднаха от състезанието. Очаквам след като Аз пропускам по бързо движещите се от мен в удобно място и другите да го правят,ЕТИКАТА го изисква. ВСЕ ПАК СМЕ НА СЪСТЕЗАНИЕ и се състезаваме с времето и другите участници . След етапа ако трябва ще отида да им помогна и аз.

Та това са нещата които искам да обсъдим.

[banjo]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Тема: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация
А пари не искаш ли да ти дават за участието ?

Не те знам кой си ама ще ти кажа следното:
Пари сам ще си намеря или изработя, но няма да рекламирам безплатно някой си по този нелоялен начин. С този регламент не се дава избор. Мога да му сложа рекламата извън официалните символи на състезанието ако желая а не да бъда задължен.
Доволен ли си господин анонимен Всезнайко

[sobax]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Аз предлагам, за да е щастлив колегата, да се направят таксите по €1000 и да няма стикери.
Така много бързо ще убием целия спорт и banjo ще може да се похвали, че е дал началото на нещо.

И ако искаш, колега, предлагам всеки път, когато нарушиш правилата, съответното наказание да се премахва от правилника. Съгласен ли си? Каската не ти ли пречи? Давай да почваме да говорим по въпроса превантивно.

[banjo]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Аз предлагам, за да е щастлив колегата, да се направят таксите по €1000 и да няма стикери.
Така много бързо ще убием целия спорт и banjo ще може да се похвали, че е дал началото на нещо.

И ако искаш, колега, предлагам всеки път, когато нарушиш правилата, съответното наказание да се премахва от правилника. Съгласен ли си? Каската не ти ли пречи? Давай да почваме да говорим по въпроса превантивно.

Ами да ги направим по 2000€ ако искаш ама когато и в България влезе Еврото и заплатите ни са подобаващи. Много добре знаеш за какво става въпрос ама се правиш на интересен. Това кой спорт ще бъде убит ще се види.
За другото какво съм искал да бъде премахнато: не ми слагай думи в устата които не съм казвал. Дай пример където съм искал да бъде махнато нещо което съм нарушил

[Златан Златев]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Благой,бъди коректен като пишеш нещо.
Такса участие в Рали-спринт Варна е 200лв,а без рекламни стикери на организатора е в двоен размер-400лв.

[banjo]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Благой,бъди коректен като пишеш нещо.
Такса участие в Рали-спринт Варна е 200лв,а без рекламни стикери на организатора е в двоен размер-400лв.

Напълно коректен съм, оранжевото Пежо 106 което участва е на мой познат и информацията ми е от първа ръка

[Деян Давидов]

От: Верига състезания "Bulgaria Trophy Challenge 2014"- информация

Copy-Paste от правилника им:
4.4 Такси за участие . 4.4.1 Такса за участие с реклама на организатора – 200 лв
4.4.2 Такса за участие без реклама на организатора – 400 лв
Линк 9-та страница.